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Harold
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Subject: Forcing a visit from the Google spider?
I'm sure that there is a way to do this, but I can't remember it.

I need to get Google to reindex my home page, because even though I cleared out the cialis text that had been injected into it, I just discovered that the Title of the page is displaying in the Google SERPs as "Cialis spam blah blah blah" Interestingly, the page has not lost position, but it's quite off-putting when you see it in the results, and I'm sure I'm losing clickthroughs as a result.

The page itself is now fine. I just need Google to look at it again.
December 22, 2009 11:35PM
Ian C. Purdie
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Webmaster Tools?
December 22, 2009 11:58PM
Harold
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Yes, I poked around in there. Adjusted the crawl rate, but couldn't see any place to ask them to reindex a page...
December 23, 2009 04:02AM
DamonHD
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Subject: Re: Forcing a visit from the Google spider?
If G thinks your page is good and regularly updated then it'll probably be re-spidered fairly regularly anyway, maybe daily or more.

Rgds

Damon
December 23, 2009 08:54AM
Troi
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I wonder if you set up a new google analytics - put the code on and re-submit it....just a thought.
December 23, 2009 09:15AM
Harold
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I poked around some more in Google Webmaster help info.--basically, it seems that the best thing to do is wait.
December 23, 2009 04:13PM
DamonHD
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Submit a new site map indicating the new timestamps on all the stuff that you've just fixed?

Rgds

Damon
December 23, 2009 06:21PM
Harold
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Hmm. I think I'll just wait a few days. I've never done a site map, as I have never needed to, and it would take a while to create one...
December 23, 2009 06:43PM
DamonHD
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I agree that *I* wouldn't like to do it, but you asked the question! B^>

Rgds

Damon
December 23, 2009 06:45PM
Troi
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Subject: Re: Forcing a visit from the Google spider?
Depending on how many pages there are - there are some automated sitemap generaters that are OK - a 2 minute job.
December 23, 2009 07:12PM
Ian C. Purdie
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DO, DO the xml sitemap.

There was an automated process somewhere which I originally used but I can't remember. Google it.

With sitemap submission, it's usually checked within 5 minutes BUT automatically stops at the first error so if you have multiple errors it can be time consuming. Of course one error can put subsequent data out of order.

It's extremely pickky and intolerant of even one instance of mis-format.
December 23, 2009 07:40PM
Harold
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Hmm. Maybe I better look into that.

AFTER the holidays. And maybe it will be fixed by then anyway!
December 23, 2009 07:42PM
Ian C. Purdie
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Do it anyway!

If Google likes it....
December 23, 2009 07:46PM
Troi
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Here's the one I use - know idea how it rates with others - but it really does only take a couple of minutes to do - and it does work. Obviously if the site is larger than 500 pages you may have to find something else - or manually change the code that is produced to add the extra stuff in.

[www.xml-sitemaps.com]
December 23, 2009 08:39PM
Ian C. Purdie
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manually change the code that is produced to add the extra stuff in

Yep. One error though and...

All fixable, just don't have your brain elsewhere while doing it.

Voice of experience...
December 23, 2009 08:54PM
GegaBit
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What Damon said new site map, even if it is a text file listing 10 links each in one line, do it now.

Also if you're on a page and rightclick and select view cache, that usually will get you a quick bot visit, one more is any change in a page even minor will warrant no only a visit but an update too.
December 23, 2009 09:15PM
Harold
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OK thanks. Will try the rightclick trick. Other stuff will have to wait till I'm at home.
December 23, 2009 09:37PM
Harold
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Hmm. Don't have "view cache" as an option when I am right-clicking on a page...

Here's the page in question. It's clean now:

[www.underdown.org]

How do I do that?
December 23, 2009 09:41PM
GegaBit
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it comes when you install a google toolbar in your browser
December 23, 2009 10:08PM
GegaBit
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just did it for you
the cache is full of Cialis soft tabs sale, really bad!
December 23, 2009 10:09PM
Harold
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Oh, thank you! I don't have the Google toolbar.

I know, it's tremendous garbage.

What I'm also curious about are the links at the BOTTOM of the page, which seem to go to legit sites. Do you think those are sites that have also been hacked, and I should warn the webmasters of them?
December 23, 2009 10:22PM
Troi
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Harold - I really think you need to ditch your host - and move somewhere more secure. I don't think this should be too costly - or take too much time - this sounds like a total nightmare that you need to get sorted asap - and put yourself somewhere more secure. If you're saying your figures aren't down - and yet there is all this spurious stuff in there taking your legit traffic - imagine what your figures might have been?
December 23, 2009 10:28PM
Ian C. Purdie
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I know, it's tremendous garbage
I disagree. However, the Google cache is indeed full of KRAP

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Do you think those are sites that have also been hacked, and I should warn the webmasters of them?
They're not affiliate links so I'd say more than likely associated with the perpetrators of the hack.
December 24, 2009 12:26AM
Ian C. Purdie
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Forgot to add, I don't allow cache.

<meta name="robots" content="noarchive">
December 24, 2009 12:30AM
Harold
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Subject: Re: Forcing a visit from the Google spider?
Troi, this amounted to two files inserted into my root directory, and two files messed with. Not so much, really. The text is garbage, that's all I meant. This "only" affected traffic coming to my home page from search engines. Fortunately for me, much of my incoming traffic comes straight to a particular page or section.

I would like to switch but I had thought that this was a good host, so it makes me nervous about switching and perhaps ending up worse off.

Ian, the other sites listed on the spam page are clearly not all associated with the perps. I haven't checked them all out, but one of them is for a town library in one of the smaller US states--they've cleaned it up, but interestingly their home page comes up with Cialis text when accessed via Google! Just like me.

What's the benefit of not allowing cache by Google?
December 24, 2009 04:27AM
GegaBit
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I too don't allow cache
prevents being copied without even knowing you are
December 24, 2009 08:44AM
Ian C. Purdie
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Yep plus some other reasons I forget as usual.
December 24, 2009 07:41PM

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